Richard asks…
Are you a woman,do you live in the UK,?
Are you worried that immigrants coming to live here often come from countries that treat women as second best and sex objects, with the recent rapes in India, has it made you more afraid. Do you think our laws protect us enough.
Pip answers:
Nope it hasnt made me afraid. In addition, you need to get your facts right …..Events that occur in India also happen to occur here in USA and according to my brother even in UK. In fact, UK has more number of prostitutes than India but Indian women are rather more secured compared to someone here in terms of her personal morality. As a consequence, she retailates which is not the case at least here in California.
Mark asks…
Atheists: Why is gay marriage so important to you if there’s no objective morality?
Don’t you at least think to yourself, “If there is no objective standard for ethics, then what basis do my moral concerns have, really?”
Why do humans deserve equal rights?
@ Lil Point out exactly where I said I was opposed to gay marriage.
@ Carpet You do not have the best morality in an absolute sense, nor do I, nor does anyone.
@ torpex As do I; Feelings, subjectivity, and relativism.
@ Ph.D But their personal views on morality are no more objectively valid than yours! Your feelings of moral outrage are no more objectively valid than the feelings of those who oppose gay marriage, or are apathetic.
@ Reil There’s nothing in the laws of nature, or the laws of matter and energy, that require that humans have equal rights. Hence to a naturalist atheist, there can be no objective reason why humans should be granted equal rights, in the sense of a reason than exists independently of human society. The reasons why humans are granted equal rights are subjective – they depend on what is most useful to the functioning of society, and so on.
Pip answers:
Because of the immorality from BAD Christians of course like every other decent person!
BIGOT – One who is intolerant, especially regarding, religion, politics, sex or race.
HOMOPHOBIA: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals. – – – – – – – – Please note this is a psychiatric definition!
Primitive religion has always lagged behind the improvement in moral attitudes and that is what these people are doing to Christianity – making it primitive!
There were people who opposed the abolition of slavery, emancipation for women, the banning of discrimination of women, the attempts to eradicate racism and now the need to eradicate homophobia!
Taking one sin to indulge in intolerance, hatred, bigotry, homophobia and persecution will never be acceptable in the eyes of God!
Anglican leaders from around the world have clearly stated their opposition to the “victimization or diminishment” of gays and lesbians, saying demonizing and persecuting them was “totally against Christian charity and basic principles of pastoral care”.
“We say that no one should have to live in fear because of the bigotry of others.”
The Mormons poured millions into forcing through prop 8 in CA: to ban gay marriage. In August 2010 the court held that to be unconstitutional. On 15 June 2011 the San Francisco court upheld that decision because it violates the constitutional rights of citizens. On 7 February 2012 the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals struck the California law again finding that the California state constitution banning same-sex marriage violated principles of due process and equal protection under the law.
The court found that the ban violates equality laws to target a minority group and withdraw a right that it possessed, without a legitimate reason for doing so. Proposition 8 serves no purpose, and has no effect, other than to lessen the status and human dignity of gays and lesbians in California. The constitution simply does not allow for laws of this sort.
It is now awaiting the Supreme Court verdict which is expected to uphold the early court decision.
If that happens then gay marriage will become legal everywhere and that will be marriage and not civil partnership!
In the UK The intolerance, bigotry and homophobia from Christians resulted in it being classed as a hate crime with severe sentences. It has led to the government framing legislation which if enacted will replace “Civil Partnership” with full marriage. France, New Zealand, Spain and ten other countries have legalized gay marriage and others have commenced legislating to do so!
The loving god works in mysterious ways.
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